Really sucks that this discussion is petering out like it is. I find myself hanging out here less because of this inconvenience and it sucks. I like our small developer community, I've met a lot of well informed programmers who have helped me get better and I've met a lot of n00bs who have well thought out questions that I'm happy to answer.
Why doesn't plusminus hang out here anymore? He could at least tap a few active members to be admins if he's dipping out so that we aren't just on standby like this. I tried to do a search for something earlier and after asking me an anti-bot question I was redirected to http://search.php
-_- . Was able to figure out the URL but still shows that the site needs admins :-/