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Petition - Information about upcoming SDKs! [Update #4]

Postby plusminus » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:21 pm

Hello Community,

[Update #3]
I decided to officially submit the petition:
To an Google Android Advocate wrote:Hello David,

you may have heard of the SDK-petition I started some weeks ago.
Now I decided to officially 'submit' it to you, the Android Team. (I couldn't find a person that would fit better. But if you do, please let me know).

This is where it started:
http://groups.google.com/group/android- ... 3e2a199b6/

219 Developers have by now actually signed the Petition:
http://www.anddev.org/petition/

We, the developers, think that it is time for an official comment by Google/the Android Team.

We are looking forward for any reply.

Best Regards,
Nicolas Gramlich
[/Update #3]

[Update #4]
Got a response... :roll:
Google Android Advocate wrote:Nicolas,

We appreciate the enthusiasm of our developers and we're excited that
you're so passionate about the Android platform. Thanks for taking the
time to send this.

Take care,
David

[/Update #4]

[Update #2]
you can now actually sign the petition.
:arrow: http://www.anddev.org/petition/
[/Update #2]

maybe you have heard about my Petition - Information about upcoming SDKs!. It seems like it is causing more and more waves throughout the whole Android community.

Today I was asked for an Interview by Cade Metz from theregister.co.ok about me as a developer and me starting the petition (Read the article :src: here). Also alleyinsider.com is reporting about my petition.

The most interesting answer is this one by an (official) Android Engineer:
JBQ wrote:I'm going to get into trouble for this post...

I was a bit facetious in my previous post, I'm sorry about that, I
shouldn't have been playing with people's feelings like that, that was
somewhat inappropriate.

There is some truth however in saying that we (the Google Android
team) are very much focusing on playing our part in getting an Android
device on the shelves as soon as we possibly can, and that focus comes
at the expense of other tasks, like getting an SDK out...
:arrow: read full answer...


If you have not yet heard of the petition, this is what I started with. Its a kind of open letter to Google.
Hello everyone,

I'm starting this petition, to express my personal frustration about
the release cycles and the information policy of the Android SDK.
Before m5 we were waiting about 2 months, now we are waiting almost 4
months!
Partially the SDK is buggy (i.e.: the MediaPlayer) and features like
built-in Geocoding are not working.

In order not to lose many highly encouraged developers, I think its
time to release some news about the development process of the SDK.
Maybe let us know why we have to live with these long cycles.

As you maybe know, I am one of the biggest fans of Android, putting a
lot of work into the community through my forum. But unfortunately
disappointment is being born in the last weeks :(
(Especially thinking of recently existing OpenMoko-Phones and the new
iPhone SDK).

In my personal opinion it is not the right choice to keep developers
in the dark. We, the developers, are the absolute base of success to
the whole Android platform. The presentation with GoogleIO was a good
first step but for me it was nto enough.

Therefore I am 'signing' this 'petition', hoping to receive
information/update on the Android SDK.

(+1) plusminus

Regards, plusminus
http://anddev.org
# Worlds largest Android Development Community / Tutorials

PS: I didn't want to depreciate the work of the Android Dev Team or
anyone else.


Read the answers to: :rarrow: Petition - Information about upcoming SDKs!

I'll keep you informed about updates regarding this topic.
[Update #1]
Tonight all ADC-entrants received this... strange mail:
Mail from Google wrote:[font=Courier New]Subject: Final SDK build available (84853); deadline extended to Tuesday, August 5
Date: 14.07.2008 23:50
To: adc-entrants@google.com[/font]
android-support@google.com wrote:ADC Entrants,

We're pleased to announce that SDK build 84853 is now available on your private download site. This will be the last build released for ADC Round 2 and is the build that you will need to submit your final application under.

In addition, the final ADC deadline has been extended to Tuesday, August 5. This is the final ADC deadline.

Thanks!
Android Developer Challenge Team

It looks really much as if it was sent all ADC-entrants, where it was meant to be sent to the ADC-finalists. A funny mistake in a funny time... ;)
[/Update #1]

/plusminus for anddev.org

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Postby coding_android » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:26 pm

It is great to get an honest answer by JBQ. From my point of view it can't be that difficult even with a lot of companys involved to write something about the developement in the official blog. To communicate no matter what is one of the most important things if you want to build up an open community.
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Postby alex2308 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:54 am

well, to be honest:

its a typical google marketing answer. its all about the "we are hearing you!", "keep it going!" and "thats all i can/am allowed to say!"-google way of answering.



but in fact it means:
- we refuse giving everyone the SDK, except some ppl we chose for some reasons only we know (50 adc winners)
- we are in fact working on it, but the current status is so damn bad, that we cant make it public, without getting smashed in the press
- we are not sure if we can make it by oct 2008, but we are forced to release it. so we will release a buggy alpha style version, which will satisfy noone. release date has higher priority than quality.
- in fact android wont be as open as mentioned. the plattform will be open. which means everything ON it, not the underlying parts. this will get the community pissed, so we try to keep it private as long as possible to keep people working on android. once it gets public, we will blame the carriers. they locked your phone. THEY ARE EVIL! we are google. we are good. resistance is futile.
- please dont code for the iphone or limo, they are badly locked, THEY ARE EVIL!
- we are pissed that you (the community) doenst like us. we get punched in the back by google while getting hit in the face by the community. this job sucks. i want another one.



just my 2 cents
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Postby alex2308 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:52 pm

amazing, they quoted me. my 15 minutes! :D
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Postby plusminus » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:55 pm

:D I can find my name on the largest tech-sites in the world... feels interesting ;)
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From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step

Postby plus65 » Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:24 pm

I also received the same email from Android/Google.
Now I understand what the old saying "From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step"
really means.
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Postby plusminus » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:59 am

[Update]
you can now actually sign the petition.
:arrow: http://www.anddev.org/petition/
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Postby zanky » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:32 pm

I am Mr. 51 :)
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Postby tum0rc0re » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:18 am

Heh, we will wait impatiently new version of SDK :) I hope that 5 august will release will new SDK for everyone.
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Postby plusminus » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:06 pm

tum0rc0re wrote:Heh, we will wait impatiently new version of SDK :) I hope that 5 august will release will new SDK for everyone.


Hm... why August 5[sup]th[/sup] :?:
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Postby alex2308 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:15 pm

plusminus wrote:
tum0rc0re wrote:Heh, we will wait impatiently new version of SDK :) I hope that 5 august will release will new SDK for everyone.


Hm... why August 5[sup]th[/sup] :?:


some people do believe that there will be a sdk release near august 5th. the do believe google wont release new sdk's (even to the 50 adc winners) until then (as to "leaked" adc info) because theyre working on a public sdk release right now. (since developers are demanding so much?)
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Postby plusminus » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:20 pm

:P yes... at least 1 week later imo.

Whyever they don't make it public now. It would take them 5 minutes...
If they say before that they won't give support on this version, Google won't even have more to do.
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Postby coding_android » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:32 pm

Ah that would be so great. Should I wait starting to develop my application right now? It seems so right?
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Postby tum0rc0re » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:33 pm

plusminus wrote:Hm... why August 5[sup]th[/sup] :?:


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